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      #138257 - 01/31/08 03:20 PM

Two part question! =D

What was the cause of his dimples?

(pictures here and here to see what I'm talking about - look just in front of his pectoral flipper.)

Second part to come later

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Re: Hyak [Re: Kasatka]
      #138258 - 01/31/08 10:48 PM

It wasn't from possible bullet wounds was it?

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Re: Hyak [Re: OrcaArtist]
      #138261 - 02/01/08 08:44 AM

Nope.

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Re: Hyak [Re: OrcaArtist]
      #138263 - 02/01/08 05:26 PM

That's what I was thinking too.

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Re: Hyak [Re: Kasatka]
      #138264 - 02/01/08 05:44 PM

Here's a hint - he has one in front of each pec. They're symmetrical.

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Re: Hyak [Re: Kasatka]
      #138265 - 02/01/08 05:45 PM

Was it an area where blubber samples were taken?

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Re: Hyak [Re: OrcaArtist]
      #138266 - 02/02/08 12:29 AM

Huh, that's an interesting idea...

Nope. But good thought. =)

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Hyak answer & second question [Re: Kasatka]
      #138268 - 02/02/08 08:27 PM

They're false mammaries. =)

The second question is, which other male orca was noted to have had them?

(I'll post some pics later)

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: Kasatka]
      #138269 - 02/02/08 09:26 PM

False mams all the way up there?! Wow that is interesting. How did they figure out what they were?

Did Haida have false mammaries as well?

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: OrcaArtist]
      #138270 - 02/02/08 10:32 PM

Well, here is part of the article, published in 1973:

"In each species of mammal, the mammary gland has developed through many steps of evolution. As seen in the platypus, the most primitive stage of the mammary gland has no distinct teats. Mammals that have multiple birth, e.g. the pig, have multiple teats. Others show some trace of origin from multiple teats but have changed substantially to a pair or pairs while the remaining teats have degenerated.

In evolutionary sequence two row of teats, in pairs, occur along the whole ventral surface between the forelimbs and anus. In the elephant and the dugong, the first teats, located between the forelimbs have remained, in primates it is the second pair, and in some ungulates, the rear ones have remained. The vestiges of once functional teats are seen in many mammals. It is often seen in a man that a tiny spot is found at an arm base as a vestige of the first teats and a spot sometimes present on the abdomen is likely to be one of the third teats. Sometimes these are found even in males.

To date, the teats of cetaceans have been considered as derived from the most rear pair."

He goes on to just mention the two individuals he observed.

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: Kasatka]
      #138273 - 02/03/08 04:33 PM

Very interesting! Kinda weird how they are indented as oppose to the fake mammaries by the genital area.
Yeah my guess is Haida as well.

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: loveforRuka]
      #138274 - 02/03/08 05:32 PM

Not Haida. =)

It was actually a country outside of North America.

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: Kasatka]
      #138275 - 02/03/08 06:27 PM

Perhaps Cuddles?

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: GreekOrca]
      #138278 - 02/04/08 10:21 PM

Nope - the whale was Jumbo. =)

I'll post some pics of the both of them in a few days.

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: Kasatka]
      #138279 - 02/05/08 02:28 PM

Neat! Thanks for sharing Kim

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: loveforRuka]
      #138280 - 02/05/08 03:30 PM

How interesting, i didn't know they could have fake mammaries, thanks for sharing

Edited by Marian (02/05/08 03:30 PM)


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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: Kasatka]
      #138281 - 02/05/08 05:22 PM

Jumbo. Wow, that is interesting.

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: OrcaArtist]
      #139288 - 06/18/09 01:31 PM

Kim,

do you still have the photos? If so, would it be possible to view them?

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: Jinx]
      #139289 - 06/18/09 03:15 PM

Yup, sorry I never posted them.

Jumbo is the one in the upper left picture. The other two are of Hyak. I think it's interesting that he had one on either side. It really lends to the theory that they're vestigial mammaries.



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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: Kasatka]
      #139290 - 06/19/09 02:04 PM

oh how funky! Thank you for the photos Kim =)

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Re: Hyak answer & second question [Re: Jinx]
      #139295 - 07/01/09 08:25 PM

Yes indeed! Thanks for posting!

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